Don’t buy Southern Copper (SCCO) now despite predictions of higher copper prices.

I’m going to take you through an analysis of a article on copper price expectations.  My comments are in bold and bracketed.

Copper Expected To Languish Over Summer But Pick Up Into Year-End

15 June 2011, 2:16 p.m.
By Allen Sykora
Of Kitco News



[Why should the price of copper languish over the summer?  Who are these faceless, unnamed analysts?]

(Kitco News) – Copper should languish over the summer after the early 2011 bullish enthusiasm, but analysts expect renewed demand later this year that could push prices again to near or above $10,000 a metric ton.

[The supply of copper in the London Metal Exchanges warehouses have been building since the end of late 2010.  LME stocks decrease when supply is constrained.  There is a report out by Bloomberg that domestic copper supplies in China are dwindling.  The Chinese government has created a real estate bubble that is going to pop.  That bubble consumes a lot of copper to build the equivalent all the real estate of Houston, Texas each month.  It will pop and the copper demand that these Keynesian economists are forecasting will evaporate.  The price of copper will fall.  The price of Southern Copper stock will fall.



Some already point to signs of some improvement, such as rising premiums for physical copper in key consuming regions. Any meaningful pick-up in demand should be supportive since supply remains constrained due to factors such as labor disruptions, declining grades and limited new major discoveries.

Three-months copper closed at $9,154 a metric Wednesday on the London Metal Exchange, down 10.2% from a record of $10,190 in mid-February.

[Why is the LME copper stock increasing if the supply side is restrained?  The demand side at $4.11/lb is definitely weakening due to the Chinese governments efforts to stop the price inflation and real estate bubble that they created with their Keynesian mercantilist policies]

“The supply side is pretty restrained on copper,” said Edward Meir, analyst with MF Global. “Not too many people are capable of cranking out extra output. But the demand side is weakening.”

Much of the U.S. economic data over the last month has been softer than expected, raising concerns about future consumption of industrial commodities such as copper.

[So why will there be a pickup in copper prices at the end of the year?  All this supporting evidence points to lower copper prices.]

Further, there are worries that Chinese authorities have been successful in slowing their economy to avoid an overheating. A massive spring earthquake in Japan also dented demand for some industrial metals. Meanwhile, inventories of copper in LME warehouses have risen to 475,750 from 377,550 at the end of 2010.

Several analysts said copper could fall some more in the next couple of months due to this uncertain backdrop, and also because of slower seasonal demand  during the vacation season and maintenance shutdowns in the Northern Hemisphere.

“There is so much that could go wrong,” said Leon Westgate, base-metals analyst with Standard Bank. “There is the potential for a Greek default. There is potential for China tightening even more aggressively and probably overdoing things.”

Chinese buyers have been largely sidelined. “The physical demand from China has picked up from the lows seen in March, but it’s still far from spectacular,” Westgate said.

Catherine Virga, director of research with CPM Group, suggested copper is “vulnerable in the near term” and could fall back to the $8,500 region. Meir figures copper could drop to $7,800 to $8,000 over the summer.

“We might not see a sharp turnaround until market conditions get a little bit tighter,” Virga said.

Weakness Seen By Many As Buying Opportunity

Some analysts, however, believe any copper weakness may well end up being a buying opportunity.

[There will be a double dip recession.  Keynesian deficit spending all over the world is destroying capital that will not be invested by entrepreneurs.]

“Fundamentally, I continue to like it,” said Bart Melek, head of commodity strategy, rates and foreign-exchange research with TD Securities. “But investors, traders and the community broadly will have to be convinced that the current soft patch in global economic growth…is temporary and will not morph into some sort of more insidious decline, with potential for a double-dip recession.”

[Mr. Melek expressed optimism that U.S. economic data will improve in the second half of the year.  What does he base his optimism on?  Keynesian economic theory that deficit spending by governments is beneficial to increase the standard of living for all.  The Austrian school refutes this.  Experience refutes this.  Read any of Gary North’s free articles for a good explanation of why Mr. Melek is clueless:

The market has not yet gotten sufficient data to confirm the recent economic slow patch is only temporary, which could mean more pressure on commodities generally. Copper could fall another 5%, Melek said. Nevertheless, he expressed optimism that U.S. economic data will improve in the second half of the year.

[The global economy is going to fall apart before it gets better.  The malinvestments of the boom haven’t been liquidated.  Banks are holding hundreds of billions in bad loans.  Central banks are printing money like never before.  All hope is placed on Chinese bureaucrats who are trying to quell possible rebellion due to high unemployment and high price increases.  The Eurozone is falling apart and the US federal, state, and local governments are broke.  Governments are trying to increase taxes.  This take money away from individuals.  It crowds out capital investment by individuals seeking profits and put their money in the hands of bureaucrats buying votes on money losing projects.]

“I would be buying these dips or corrections,” Melek said. “The fundamentals are strong. We here at TDS are quite convinced that the global economy isn’t going to fall apart. It’s going to grow at just under 4% or so.”

To be convinced of stronger fundamentals, the market may want to see more bullish monthly Chinese import figures and drawdowns in LME warehouse inventories of copper. Melek looks for LME warehouse stocks to decline later this year and points out that Shanghai Futures Exchange inventories are already down.

Already, there are some early signs of improvement in copper demand, Virga said. The premium in Shanghai rose to $112 a metric ton as last week wound down, well up from $20 in mid-May. European premiums rose to $92.50 from $57 in mid-May. 

Further, the premium between London and Shanghai exchange prices has narrowed from May, creating an incentive for China to start picking up more copper on the international market, Virga said.

Yet another potential supportive influence is pending exchange-traded funds that would be backed by copper holdings, should these be approved in the coming months by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Virga said. This would add to investment demand.

Demand Grows Less Quickly Than Expected, But 2011 Deficit Still Expected

[The expectations are all based on Chinese demand growth.  China is a bubble.  Watch the video in the top 10 search results for google search ‘China bubble Jim Chanos’ if you don’t believe me.  Chanos is not the only one calling a China bubble, but he is one of the most credible due to his shorting of Enron before it fell.]

Overall copper demand has not grown as robustly as some were forecasting last year, Virga said. “But it is still positive and is going to outpace supply, particularly because of so many disruptions.”

One such disruption getting attention lately is a strike at the world’s No. 5 copper mine, El Teniente in Chile.

Meir and Westgate both look for “modest” 2011 supply/demand deficits. Meir anticipates 150,000 to 200,000 tons. Westgate expects some 200,000 tons.

Others anticipate  larger deficits. CPM Group projects 390,000 tons,   Melek looks for 400,000, and Harbor Intelligence thinks there will be  a deficit between 500,000 and 600,000 tons.

Melek anticipates LME copper will get back near $10,000 in the second half of the year. CPM Group projects copper averaging $9,800 a metric ton in the third quarter and $10,250 in the fourth, Virga said.

Jesus Villegas, analyst with Harbor, looks for copper to hit all-time highs again either in the fourth quarter or else in early 2012, perhaps hitting $5 a pound and $11,000 a ton. By then, he said, copper will be past its seasonally slow period and fund and other speculative money should be flowing back into the market.

Meir, however, figures copper has already put in its high for the year. After a fall to $7,800-$8,000 in the next two to three few months, he anticipates a range of $8,000 to $9,500 for the remainder of the year.

Westgate looks for a 2011 average cash price of $9,525, with $9,750 in the fourth quarter. He anticipates the copper market will be tighter in 2012 than this year, with prices also rising next year.

By Allen Sykora of Kitco News;

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Southern Copper: Dividend Dynamo or Blowup?…

Ilan Moscovitz
June 15, 2011

Dividend investing is a tried-and-true strategy for generating strong, steady returns in economies both good and bad. But as corporate America’s slew of dividend cuts and suspensions over the past few years has demonstrated, it’s not enough simply to buy a high yield. You also need to make sure those payouts are sustainable.

Let’s examine how Southern Copper (NYSE: SCCO  ) stacks up in four critical areas to determine whether it’s a dividend dynamo or a disaster in the making.

1. Yield
First and foremost, dividend investors like a large yield. But if a yield gets too high, it may reflect investors’ doubts about the payout’s sustainability. If investors had confidence in the stock, they’d be buying it, driving up the share price and shrinking the yield.

Southern Copper yields 7.3% — rather high and worthy of closer examination.

2. Payout ratio
The payout ratio might be the most important metric for judging dividend sustainability. It compares the amount of money a company pays out in dividends to the amount it generates. A ratio that’s too high — say, greater than 80% of earnings — indicates that the company may be stretching to make payouts it can’t afford.

Southern Copper’s payout ratio is an aggressive 93%, though its free cash flow payout ratio is a more reasonable 61%.

3. Balance sheet
The best dividend payers have the financial fortitude to fund growth and respond to whatever the economy and competitors throw at them. The interest coverage ratio indicates whether a company is having trouble meeting its interest payments — any ratio less than five is a warning sign. Meanwhile, the debt-to-equity ratio is a good measure of a company’s total debt burden.

Let’s examine how Southern Copper stacks up next to its peers:


Debt-to-Equity Ratio

Interest Coverage Ratio

Southern Copper



Freeport-McMoRan (NYSE: FCX  )



Newmont Mining (NYSE: NEM  )



Teck Resources (NYSE: TCK  )



Source: Capital IQ, a division of Standard & Poor’s.

Southern Copper’s debt burden appears higher than its peers, though the absolute level is moderate.

4. Growth
A large dividend is nice; a large growing dividend is even better. To support a growing dividend, we also want to see earnings growth.

Over the past five years, Southern Copper’s earnings per share have grown 3% annually, while its dividend has grown at 7%.

The Foolish bottom line
Southern Copper exhibits a fairly clean dividend bill of health. Its payout ratio appears somewhat aggressive, however, so maintaining or growing those payouts will depend on the company’s ability to expand production and the prices of its commodities can fetch.

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